DCMK fandom related peeves of mine (most of them Kaito centric because it’s my list and I’m me):
– “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” – Quote by Kudo Shinichi (Misquotes in general, and especially bad for the words being sharp and can cut deeper than a sword and ruin relationship, it was said in ch561/ep479 by a monk before ever being quoted by Conan in movie 15.)
– Kaito’s violet eyes (for those who are unaware, they’re blue, indigo could be argued for DC animated appearances, but they’re supposed to be blue.)
– ‘Why does Akako even exist in Magic Kaito, magic doesn’t exist in the Conan world, it’s ruining my experience. ’
– Unwarranted Kid hate
– Kaito going into giant panic attacks from even glimpsing a fish
– Kaito and Heiji are somehow very sexually experienced despite a relationship being their first
– ‘Yukiko and Yuusaku are the worst parents’, ‘Chikage abandoned Kaito soon after Toichi’s death’, and generally everyone’s issues magnified to be worse than they are
– No one gets hurt
– Kid apparently having always returned everything he stole, offended at an assumption otherwise
– Anything sexual with Shinichi still as Conan, quite a few issues with abusive relationship ships (canon isn’t really helping with the latter)
– Yumi or Yumi/Shuukichi hate??? Really guys, I know there’s a ton of ships and more aren’t the most necessary, but don’t take it out on the characters, they’re puppets to the author.
I feel like they could exist in the same universe, if magic is kept lowkey, but word of Gosho is apparently that the world in Magic Kaito and the one for Detective Conan are supposed to be parallel worlds, and that the Kid you see in DC technically isn’t the one from MK.
…Which I find most of what Gosho says during Q&As to be full of a ton of BS, so it’s still technically up for interpretation. He can’t actually keep his stories straight and I feel like he just makes things up when he needs a safe response. Kid is still clearly looking for something specific, and while it might not be an immortality granting stone, there’s… zero indication of what else it might be.
Magic in the DC universe would explain more than just the charms and premonitions, though. Haibara’s ‘BO sense’ is too convenient to brush off as normal, Conan has a similar ‘Kid sense’, and then there’s an apparent telepathic connection characters have that lets them know when something’s wrong with someone they care about. (See: Shinichi and Ran in general, Shinichi and Heiji like when Heiji was shoved off a ship into the ocean. It happens in canon, but the movies especially are bad about it.)
Not to mention that Gosho had a literal psychic tell Conan a big secret would be found out during the Holmes Freak murder case, and sure enough Heiji learned the truth.
Early DC did have a more fun, silly feel that a lot of older Gosho works had, even if it was in a more serious genre. A lot of the instances of things that can’t be explained have died down as the series goes on, which could be why there’s more of a push for a separation of magic from the logic. But people aren’t actually capable of separating the two in their mind, they just want to get rid of all the magic entirely, which is what annoys me. No hate on Magic Kaito for having magic. The MK fans don’t go hating on Detective Conan for not showing magic, they know Akako would probably break the DC world, so it’s just. Disheartening. When the opinion comes up that MK is at fault and ruining the DC experience because of the possibility of magic comes up.
Besides, the whole ‘took something that was supposed to be a poison but it changed me into a kid’ idea borders on the disbelieving side anyway, and yet it’s accepted without much fuss. Yes, it has some form of explanation later, but you had to have already invested time into accepting it without putting the series aside by the time you get that explanation. Magic shouldn’t be an experience killer compared to the very first time you read the series.
Magic Kaito started in 1987. Detective Conan started in 1994.
I don’t care if Detective Conan (or Case Closed) was your childhood, I’m sick and tired of the times I see people hate on Magic Kaito. MK has it’s own story, it’s own characters, and it’s own style. If you don’t like it, fine, but don’t hate just because it’s not like a completely different series that came after most of its story was created. It can’t ruin anything if it came first, the occasional cameo is the worst you get and it doesn’t even drag Kaito’s story into Conan’s.