Half the unanimated chapters have Kaito injured. And just having us miss out on nice images in general. :V (Okay, technicaly he only gets dirtied and run down in two of them, but comparing those to the whopping .5 that’s shown him like that…
(Akako’s debut had him bleeding like he should, what they failed to show was that it persisted after. They had him floating over to her after, instead of him being forced to walk to her house from wherever his heist was, while very clearly still bleeding and in pain. And the one time he got a scratch from Snake during the Red Tear hardly counts in comparison to his early problems.))
Looking at a Kaito who plays rpgs, I have to wonder how he’d feel if he came across fish-based enemies or allies? (Mostly wondering because I’m watching Zelda lps, and I can’t help but wonder if Kaito is utterly creeped out by the Zoras.)
Something random I noticed. (And small warning this is just a quick post before class because I happened to wonder about something.)
The gun Kaito’s using here isn’t his usual card gun.
And it makes sense for how it’s used, since you can see the other side of the plunger attached to the gun and left behind.
The specials keep with that…
…except this point where it just looks wrong. Possibly perspective, but a mistake one way or another.
Funnily, the newer anime got rid of it altogether. It feels like they were updating Kaito’s technology and making it less goofy, which makes some sense…
This metal grip over a plunger probably looks better, anyway. (Not sure how well either method would work on the ceiling in reality, but ah well.) The only issue is that they specifically don’t show how the other end is attached to the wall, so I don’t think they thought it through and hoped people wouldn’t wonder about it.
More interesting thing is that it’s not Kaito’s gun he also shoots cards from.
Yes, he clearly uses it in DC when going against Makoto. But the only similar time I remember in MK is the Red Tear and…
Of course it’s from his sleeve somehow, because he does need his gun to deal with Snake. Off the top of my head, I can’t really recall him using his own gun as a grappling hook/plunger, even though the image sticks with me…
(Woooow… was looking into something for a 30 days of DCMK post on my personal, and I ended up with a notepad file that eventually became this:
Black Star [Returned via Conan] Clocktower [Kept safe, ‘successfuly unsuccessful heist’] Midair Walk (Blue Wonder) [Returned via Conan] Teleportation (Purple Nail) [Returned via Conan] Iron Tanuki [Pft] Kirin Horn [Returned through Conan] Blush Mermaid [Never stolen, informed Jirokichi that it’s fake] (Alexandrite) Green Emperor [Returned via Makoto]
Eye of the Moon (anime) or Kono Star Sapphire (manga) (Jii’s heist Kaito showed up to, it looks like a generic diamond shape either way) [Returned accidentally] Beaucoup de soleil a Paris (also has a different manga name) [Returned via Nakamori] Ticking heart (technical) [Returned with a note] Angel Crown [???] (It was never shown if Kaito actually got it the second time, it just went into his disguising as Aoko) Akako’s appearance (The gem was never named or described) [Never stolen] Cleopatra’s vanity case (tiny robots heist) [???] Enperor’s Gold Seal [???] Homerun ball [Pft] Cue of legend [Never stolen? V: ] Star War (Giant’s Star) [Returned-ish via Nakamori’s tree] Adam’s Smile [???] Bronze statue [Never stolen] Pink Sapphire (Unnamed in the manga) [??? Akako has it?] Treasured Sword [Returned/never stolen/not a successful heist] Blue Birthday [Returned by leaving it to be found] Green Dream [Never stolen] Crystal Mother [Returned through Aoko] Red Tear [Cancelled target, protected] -Clocktower- [See first time] Golden Eye [Given to Ruby] Black Knight [Returned by Jack…] Midnight Crow [Never stolen]
Other gems stolen include the one from Jii’s first heist Kaito didn’t show up to, a spoken-about heist by robo Kaito before the one we see (and he says he stole ‘things’, so who knows what he actually took), three heists in a row before Hakuba got a piece of hair that are assumed to be successful, a mention before the Blue Birthday heist that the ring he stole was the 5th target that month, implied recent heist before the clocktower that Kid was successful in, [unltimately failed/returned] attempt at stealing the Jeweled Dagger before the Golden Eye heist, likely stole something even if he had trouble escaping when he met Nightmare…
And then finally we see a more casual theft and return of a jewel before the backstory of the Phantom Lady is shown, and it being mentioned that this is the fifth time Kaito’s used Aoko’s face to deal with escaping. If you want to headcanon Kaito’s always returned what he stole, go ahead, personally I’ll keep my doubts about the heists prior to Kid’s better image stemming from DC that bled into MK.
…Clearly I don’t like to analyse things at all. But really, the tangent I went off into on thoughts just made me want to make a point in saying that most of the good things we associate with Kaito were made in DC first. MK was a gag manga before DC’s more logical/suave way of portraying Kid bled over into when MK was continued. Even most returning of targets (not exclusively jewels, which happened after learning about Pandora) was accidental or done for a reason in the beginning, not the casual giving it back he has now.)
This has been bugging me a while, and the full chapter analysis tend to take up a lot of time… So, I just wanted to go over some common thoughts about Kid/Kaito that aren’t quite accurate (or could be entirely wrong altogether). From common ideas to ones I’ve only seen every once in a while (but still more than once). The fanon, so to speak, and some thoughts on why they the ideas came to be.
(I made a small post about people’s habit of having Kaito encounter others, like detectives and/or a Snake up on the roof. Well, I finally got around to making a more picture evidenced post about how that compares to what Kaito does in canon to escape.)
Not Kaito, but a small reminder that both Kid!Jii and Kid!Toichi broke through windows on the heists we see them do. Jii went to the roof and Kaito had to meet him there to confront him,
Kaito himself just poofed away, so we don’t really know how he left. Not by glider, though, easy at that would be to notice. (And he really doesn’t use it for the first time until later, the only reason I mention that is because this whole situation did technically take place on the roof, even if it was Jii’s escape route and not Kaito’s.)
This is a dummy, but still a perfectly valid escape route Kaito could have tried. If he hadn’t been smart enough not to use that with the gun happy detective…
And in this instance he used one of his more common routes of disguising as someone and walking out the door. Which when used later works almost every time, Kaito had planned to be suspected here to give Nakamori a chance to look good.
Jumped out the window and ran.
The second attempt at the Angel Crown we never see exactly how he leaves, but assume he simply ran off again since that’s what he’s doing when he ditches the mask. I doubt the police got themselves together quickly enough to catch up to him, when their distraction and Nakamori’s anger stalled them enough to give Kaito a head start down whatever route he planned to take.
Poofed and ran away (or walked, he wasn’t in the best of condition and the police were a little too shocked to follow). ((…Though I feel like Hakuba would be asking what on earth they were doing, with evidence they could have used right there. Eh, side note.))
I just like this because he actually broke into the building through the window…
And then broke another one leaving. Where the heck were these helicopters before, Kaito should have seen them coming down…
Anyway, then he used the scooter coming down.
And here we have the first instance of Kaito picking the roof to escape.
And technically the first use of the glider, even if it wasn’t his original plan. First option was to ride a cord to the tower, the glider only came out because of Akako’s interference. And even then only for a few moments to get both of them to the next building. Afterward he poofed again, and who knows what that means for how he leaves, so…
This is technically Jii doing the escaping out the skylight, but eh. Kaito walked out on his own because he could.
Poofed away again. I’m going to start assuming this means he left a distraction to walk away without being noticed. Going partially based on what was said in the Teleportation heist, that all he has to do in order to not be noticed is swap his white for black to slip away. (Even if his poofing thus far has much less smoke cover…)
With Hakuba, he’d been planning to leave using the balloon.
It wasn’t until that plan was literally cut off that he resorted to using his glider. And it’s still out of a window.
Another balloon, but he brought this one with him.
Window crash and a balloon.
Not related to how he escapes, but really Kaito. Maybe this is why he doesn’t need to use his glider, he can easily jump from building to building. :V
This was a goofy chapter, but I guess you could say he did use his glider from the roof in this. Of a wall. Not the image most think of, and it’s not a skyscraper or anything, but it counts.
Out the window, but the dummy got the balloon, he just walked off and got a mysterious phone call.
Blue Birthday is the first and technically only time the after-the-heist scene matches what people might write. On the roof, glider set, then has a confrontation with Snake. Who knows how he survived falling from the building here, since it was never explained in the manga.
Poofed later.
Officially he walked off the train as Kuroba Kaito, but the dummy took a balloon exit.
Look, even the fake hops out a random window to glide. Shame on you, fake, you wouldn’t have had a person fall on top of you if you’d gone with a balloon instead of going in circles with the glider. (Granted, his whole job was to hold police attention while Snake did his thing inside, and he was expecting it to be done quickly and have some sort of signal when he could stop, but still.)
And Kaito walked out the building after that.
He had a more unique escape with Shinichi, because the circumstances allowed him to do this. Straight up jump off the clock tower and land to mix in with the crowd.
Clearly used his glider from this random heists we don’t get to see. Who knows where he umped, but his track record is saying it’d be from the window. Possibly from that building we see on the right. Naka was on the ground with the floodlights, though, isn’t he normally always right where the item Kid’s trying to steal is kept? Or did he plan ahead of time that he wanted to pursue by police car? I don’t think he’d have had time to both try being up wherever Kid stole the dagger and make his way down to hop in a car to catch up with Kaito on the glider.
Made a window for him to jump out of and use his glider here.
He clearly had to run during the heist he was forced to accept help from Nightmare. While he knows he can’t use his glider, that doesn’t necessarily means it was his first option. (Likely would have been, though, since at this point his balloon days are behind him, he’s never used one himself since the Blue Birthday. And there are probably good reasons for that… Not least of which due to the police picking up new measures to keep Kaito from using his normal escape means, as we’ll see later. However, people after his life, who like using guns, is good incentive to switch from an easy to pop balloon to an easier to maneuver glider…)
And even if it’s half Nightmare’s plan, more likely he did go to the roof of the heist building in order to glide to this rendezvous point. The escaping the building part was on Kid, from what I got, so it counts.
Here’s the police action stepping up. Kaito can disguise as Aoko to slip through because she’s known to the police and no one wants trouble from Nakamori, but everyone else in the building is kept from being let out until they’re searched. And Kaito says he’s using Aoko’s face again, and while it could be a reference to the time he did it during the Angel Crown heist, Goudzu mentions it’s the fifth time. Kaito’s had to use her face often, even if we don’t know how necessary it was. Good organization and planning going on, even if Kaito continues to get around it. Both sides are adjusting and narrowing how they respond and act. (This might also have to do with Kid’s growing fanbase. Normally they’re kept out of the building, but I’m sure there are times the police can’t shut down the entire place. All those fans would get in and a crowd would be easy to mix in with.)
Pffft. Well… it’s unique again, because he has to take the car with him when Aoko’s handcuffed to it. And that handcuff causes a lot of panic before he can safely use the glider. Or if we put it simply, it’s another jump out the window and glide, now with Aoko and a small car. V:
Walked out during this one. (And better Kid proofing here, since they kept the jewel completely safe and successfully drove the thief off based on police planning alone. Too bad the main idea for it came from an outside source who knows the workings of magicians.)
Final escape from MK uses the glider from who knows where, but they’d have had the opportunity to leave from the roof if someone wants to interpret it that way.
…But we’re not done yet. Apologies for the length, but I do like to be thorough.
First appearance in Detective Conan, they meet on the roof, and he shows he has a glider…
But he disguised and mixed in with the police instead.
He did plan on gliding off of the ship later, but ultimately had to swim because Conan found him sooner than he’d have liked and got the police searching. If he hadn’t, he probably would have left the room with the others, then slipped away to leave and let them find Ran on their own.
Gliding from the window.
Jumped out of a helicopter to save the person who’d only jumped to help him escape. Otherwise might have thought his disguise had been good enough to fool Hakuba and Conan.
Escape the first night during the Midair Walk was fly/walk away by helicopter.
Second night and actual attempt at stealing the jewel he disguised as Jirokichi and tried to escape by motorcycle.
Not a heist, but after the mansion flooded and Conan found him out, he flew away from the roof using his glider.
Would have gone out the window…
If Conan hadn’t hit him with the soccer ball. So I assume he walked away.
Jirokichi specifically tried to stop him from using his glider (and would check people who tried to leave), so Kaito gets around him and flies off laughing. Until a ball whizzes by his face, that kills the humour or the situation.
Used it again the second night, now with a passenger.
This I noticed in the original post I made commenting on the ‘rooftop meeting and glide away’ observation post. Because the anime had this scene take place outside, with Kid taking off from the roof, here the room happened to have a window he could escape from, so he did. Even the anime seems to think going all the way up to stand on a rooftop looks cooler than the more practical and faster getaway of stepping out the nearest window.
Window.
(Go back to the magic lover’s case for the last echo of the word, the last escapes don’t want to cooperate with me.)
Disguise and run away. (Except with the pain of a not stuck to his back…)
Disguise and walk out the door.
Glide away from the exploding train car, when his original intent had been to stay in disguise and only look over the train before a heist later, by all rights he shouldn’t have had to use this.
Out the skylight and glide off the roof.
So, most of his escape routes on his own vary, but on the whole, going up to the rooftop, especially from the taller buildings, is rarely used. His glider saw more and more appearances later in his career, especially when real danger came to light, and aside from that first confrontation, he never had many rooftop chats and conversations. Those happen wherever he happens to be that police aren’t, and Kaito takes the safest and simplest ways of escaping. He only really used his glider when he had to, in the beginning it was more of a last resort method of getting away, but its use became more and more necessary.
However, he honestly has no reason to go to the roof simply to glide away. Doing so does put him at more risk, it becomes predictable if he does it too often, and if he plans on not being ambushed by guns, jumping out the nearest window really is the better option. If Snake is around and trying to get him, he could be nearby, but he can’t attack unless he wanted to draw attention to himself. Every meeting with Snake has been when the police wouldn’t be around, so stupid as the guy seems, he’s at least smart enough to not draw the eyes of detectives around Kid.
So why do I think people, including myself, jump to rooftop meetings? …Because it’s a nice scene. Usually private and some excuse is made for why the police won’t bust down the door. Great for drama. DC movie 8 didn’t help with the first scene making it look awesome. Movie 19 helps less now. And then I blame DC for the rest, because…
They put a whole heist centered around Kid using his glider, which is funny since that wasn’t his most common method until after this, publicly. Yes, he had the glider, but it wasn’t until Kid showed up in DC that it got constant use. This especially hit people over the head with associating Kid with the glider, and it admittedly looks cool, puts a feeling of freedom on Kaito, much better than the smart ideas of disguises and less noticeable escapes.
…And really DC is to blame for a lot of ideas about Kid’s character that aren’t quite accurate when you compare it to MK. Most notably the ‘no one gets hurt’ and smaller things that like riddle heist notes and that he uses help more often than not for heists. And then the movies add more to the mix of canon, non-canon, and entirely fanon thoughts…