(Was going through icons (big surprise, I know) and I came to one I had to stop on. And get the full image.
I know this has very likely been compared before, often as the two are compared in general, but still.
I get the feeling if Kaito didn’t have to worry about his identity there, he’d be just as bad as Shinichi. Even then, Kaito’s pride is more in amusement, knowing he’s Kid when no one else does and being able to hide it. (Not very well if you keep that up, Kai. V: ), while Shinichi is very much pride in detective skill. Deceiving others vs being better than them… I find you both really interesting, considering you both regret those prides later. Kaito hates that he has to hide it from people who trust him and he cares about and he gets in serious trouble when he can’t trick people, Shinichi learns in a more direct and harsher way that he can’t just go showing off how he’s right all the time and wanting more attention bringing people down like that.
If both saw themselves on the news now (as they are like that, famous high school detective and mysterious phantom thief), Shinichi/Conan might have a panic attack because oh shi-. And Kaito might still have some pride, smile a bit, snicker if he’s alone, but you know it’d hurt if he were with Aoko then and she started saying how horrible Kid was again.)
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“Don’t see him around right now~”
“So, about this new parallel dimension theory. What if it’s related to Pandora? Like, because all of us Kaitos are working towards the same goal, for the most part, in finding it, it’s caused a big enough disturbance between the worlds to allow people to visit other selves. It already supposedly grants immortality, so I don’t think anything we try to come up with is too far fetched… And I know it’s silly to base things off of books, but has anyone heard of the Chrestomanci series? They have a character – or a title carrier, more like – that is known for being a skilled magic user who can appear in parallel worlds and has nine lives. Not quite immortality, but a scary coincidence nonetheless. They also tend to be the types who want to help solve problems of the magical kind.
I’m not saying what goes on between all of our dimensions is the same, since each of us individually has one life, and whatever allows us to meet ourselves doesn’t just apply to us Kaitos. But what if the ‘immortality’ someone might get is to have all those lives between universes connected similar to this, in that there’s more than one of them, endlessly rotating through the universes, so no one could really ‘die’? Would be hard to test, especially with some of the differences between some of the worlds throwing things off already… But either way, a gem that already bends the laws of nature might have a hand in putting easy-to-pass-through holes in the universe.”
[So, went to the library, checked out manga, and then watched The Book of Life with my parents. ‘Twas nice. I’ll get one post out for icons, for Kaito in the school uniform. There’s way too many to put everything all together, and I like grouping by outfits because it makes things easier to find really, so other posts will be Kid, and then other. Other being the white shirt, random clothes, police disguises and such.
…Also, I get the random thoughts to make a Pokemon verse for Kai, but the thing is, most of my Pokeverses have the characters as Pokemon, not trainers or anything. I mean, I probably could, but my main idea would be that Kaito’s a Zorua. Still a Kaito, and his disguising illusion for human form would look the same, and he’s been around them long enough to pass off as one. For that kind of verse to still have Kid, though, only thing would be that Toichi was his trainer, and he knew about everything and carries the job out even after his death…]
(While I’m working on these though… some thoughts. And many Kai shouldn’t be given the time to muse on…
One: The people Snake’s with clearly knew the first Kid was Toichi. We may not know how, but they did. Now, Kai wouldn’t want them figuring out his identity to protect the people around him and such, but what if that happened to Toichi? I do still stand by the fact they used knowing his identity to get rid of him from fairly early on, simply because they didn’t seem to think it’d be necessary to outright kill Kaito immediately and just gave a warning. That most likely means Toichi didn’t actually get a chance to cause them too much trouble. Enough that he didn’t listen to the first time they warned him, and they got rid of him, but not so much that they found him the same threat Kai is now. But either way, them knowing does make me wonder if people Toichi knew were threatened. Regardless of how involved he’d become, he didn’t seem the type to fall so easily into a trap. Sure, could’ve faked his death or something (and then he’d be an ass for not coming out and telling Kaito when it’s clear he’s the current Kid), but maybe he really couldn’t escape. Basically… what if they did threaten his family? Would explain why he’d get caught in something like that… But if things did happen like that, my Kaito at least would blame himself to a degree, even if he obviously didn’t know about Kid at all then. It’d mean he was at least partially responsible for why his dad is gone now. To protect him… PS: The reason my personal headcanon is that Kai was present at the last show Toichi had, aside from the shock it would have been to him, is because he did seem the type to attend all of his shows. Not sure about ones in other countries after, say, Kaito started going to school, but if we go by the specials banner and such, it happened in Japan… Something I think about a lot, really…
Two: Kaito’s phobia is weird. And not just because it’s fish. Pretty sure he gets some adrenaline rush and a fight or flight (usually flight) response when he sees them, but it’s not all that crippling. Pretty sure his biggest problem is touching them, more than anything. At least, that’s when he’d probably freak out the most. He may get uncomfortable, but he can get up close to them without immediately backing away and running/shooting at it, unless he’s taken by surprise. May turn him into a nervous wreck to be with them too long, but he’s swum in the ocean on multiple occasions. And in the manga, he was perfectly fine with kicking a shark a little, even (with flippers on), because it was asleep. Which is why I think he’s more afraid when they can move, because they’re more unpredictable and he doesn’t want to come into contact with them, more than anything. Though I also do think eating them freaks him out to. Honestly, it’s more as though he thinks all contact with fish is like poison more than outright fear of the creatures themselves. Still no explanation as to why this would be, but just interesting to think about.)
(Hmm… Was looking through MK chapters, and I did notice this in the anime, but always fail to mention it. So while I’m in a rambly mood, might as well do it now.
I love how the anime sorta dances over why Kaito choose to stay as Kid. Yes, yes, they have him say he wants to know who killed his dad. May just be the translation, but I mean…
Honestly, yes, the quality of this leaves a lot to be desired in general, but… I could see Kaito being genuinely angry enough to think this.
And does this look like the face of mercy to you? I mean… *cough* That could just be a determined face… but it honestly feels a bit darker than that to me.
Either way, I do think he’s out for revenge. Was, is, just went from ‘make them pay’ to ‘destroy the thing they’re looking for’ specifically.
Which makes me think about the nature of the two Kids.
On the one hand, we have Toichi. A skilled magician who became a thief to take the spotlight from Phantom Lady and give her a chance to retire (and marry him). It’s never said exactly how he came to be involved in the whole Pandora business, but Snake said they’d warned him away once. So I imagine it to be similar to how Kaito came across them. Whether Toichi knew what he was getting into when he stole a jewel that caught their attention or not… *shrugs*
And honestly, the fact that the organisation is warning Kid (Kaito) again, completely thinking he’s still Toichi, makes me think they really didn’t encounter Toichi all that often, or at the very least, not to where they actually believed him to be a threat. Possibly learning his identity somehow the first time they saw him, even, to feel confident enough that just a warning would be necessary to get him to stop. If Toichi had caused them a lot of trouble, I doubt they’d be so nice as to caution him.
Anyway, we don’t know too much about Toichi as Kid, aside from his first appearance as a thief in France and the story from Shinichi’s childhood. But they do act differently. Toichi was older when he started, and knew some of what he was getting into, and was just as quick at thinking on his feet as his son. The biggest difference between the two really is just experience and, yes, Poker Face. What little we see of him as Kid, his confident smile never budges an inch. Aside from maybe one panel where he looked serious.
And then there’s Kaito, who, much as he tries otherwise, doesn’t have as steady of confidence. He got thrown into it by his curiosity, because of finding the secret room his father had kept locked for eight years. Then stayed because he wanted revenge, on an enemy he didn’t even know. Everything about how the second Kid started his job was filled with questions and uncertainty. And it probably made his faith in his father waver a bit as well.
Kaito obviously loved and respected his father. So, to consider that the man he looked up to might be an international thief….
Very high chance the image of Toichi was shaken quite a bit.
Though he did still stand by his dad in the end… it couldn’t have been the easiest decision he ever made. Getting a ton of information dropped on him, shaking one of his foundations, stepping into the world of a phantom thief… There’s a reason this Kid isn’t quite as sure, makes mistakes, has to build the poker face, and loses it far more easily than he might like.
And on a more off-canon note, this is why my Kaito is actually fairly unstable and borderline split-personality. Regardless of how well a job he does manage to do, and how easily he passes it off, this is too much for a high schooler whose only possible means of support is the assistant to his father who pulled him into this whole thing to begin with, and his mother who, even if he accepts the fact that she used to be a thief as well, is hardly ever actually around. Calls can only go so far. It’s a lot of pressure, evading both the oraganisation, the police, other random people out to harm Kid and hide his secrets from those around him, his best friend, her father, and the detective who is in his class who already suspects him of being Kid entirely.
I… just… I think a bit too much about how Toichi’s base for Kid was full of confidence, experience, and love, while Kaito’s was full of uncertainty and hate for the ones who killed his father.
So… I guess what I’m trying to say is… it annoys me just a tad when the anime tries to keep more with Kaito’s more loved image, the one that started the ‘no one gets hurt’ fandom policy and, though he makes a lot of mistakes, is still not as dark as Magic Kaito actually feels in the manga.)
(Random is random, but more silly thoughts. This time about Kai specifically.)
(I’ve mentioned a couple of times that my muse(s) can be summoned? For some reason, I can just imagine, at some random point in a thread, someone actually trying to summon him. Possibly by just putting their arms out and saying ‘do you want to build a snowman?’.Because I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Kai came out of nowhere to cuddle at that. Just a random picture I get, don’t mind me…)
“Wait… Did Dr. Seuss name them Thing 1 and Thing 2 to cause trouble because, if it isn’t one thing, it’s another?”
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